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Thursday, October 11, 2012

Osama bin Laden - dead men tell no lies.


"The Finish" a new book by Mark Bowden author of “Black Hawk Down”, says that President Obama wanted to put Osama bin Laden on trial. Obama expected bin Laden to go down fighting according to Bowden. As to why Obama wanted to put bin Laden on trial Bowden quotes the President as saying, "Frankly, my belief was if we had captured him, that I would be in a pretty strong position  politically here, to argue that displaying due process and rule of law would be our best weapon against al-Qaida in preventing him from appearing as a martyr".
 But was capture ever a realistic possibility?  US officials have said the Navy SEAL team was ordered to capture bin Laden if he surrendered or kill him if he threatened them. Bowden asserts the SEALs could have taken bin Laden alive but had no intention of doing so.  Contrary to what had been reported Matt Bissonnette, a member of the SEAL team that killed bin Laden, and author of “No Easy Day: The Firsthand Account of theMission That Killed Osama bin Laden”, says that night the “point man” saw a man poking his head out and shot at him. The SEALs then went slowly to the room and entered. They found a man lying on the floor, “In his death throes, he was still twitching and convulsing,” Bissonnette goes on to say, “Another assaulter and I trained our lasers on his chest and fired several rounds. The bullets tore into him, slamming his body into the floor until he was motionless.” Unconfirmed sources also assert that taking bin Laden alive was never going to happen – bin Laden knew too much. Bissonnette’s account seems to substantiate that.  Dead men tell no lies.

While our elected representatives “come and go” there are people who “remain in place” no matter which party is in power. There are “those” who are consistently appointed to positions of power and influence – no matter what their political affiliations may be. Why? Where does their first loyalty lie?  Whose interests do they represent?  What “strings” won't they pull at the behest of their masters? To what lengths will they go to “hide” their machinations and manipulations from the public? And if something “leaks” out it's discounted, dismissed and labeled as the product of “conspiracy theorist”. What happens to individuals who are suspected as being a source, or a potential source, of a “leak”? How many witnesses to the JFK assassination died? And what was the probability of the unnatural death of those witnesses?

There are those who assert that bin Laden was a CIA “intelligence asset” – assigned the name Tim Osman – and that he “toured” the U. S.  A former British Foreign secretary, Robin Cook said: “Bin Laden was, though, a product of a monumental miscalculation by western security agencies. Throughout the 80s he was armed by the CIA and funded by the Saudis to wage jihad against the Russian occupation of Afghanistan.”

There are claims that the CIA knew bin Laden’s “whereabouts” and that in July 2001 a CIA head of station actually met with bin Laden at the American Hospital in Dubai,UAE. CBS’s Dan Rather reported that bin Laden, who was on the FBI’s most wanted list at that time, was back in the hospital, one day before the 9/11 attacks. Is it conceivable that Dan Rather could know this but the FBI and the “intelligence community” did not? 

Then there are those who claim that bin Laden was already dead – that he had died years before; and that the 9/11 attack was actually a “false flag” event.  According to Paul Joseph Watson, of infowars.com, “Top US government insider Dr. Steve R. Pieczenik, a man who held numerous different influential positions under three different Presidents and still works with the Defense Department, shockingly told The Alex Jones Show yesterday that Osama Bin Laden died in 2001…”, he goes on to say that “…Pieczenik served as the Deputy Assistant Secretary of State under three different administrations, Nixon, Ford and Carter, while also working under Reagan and Bush senior, and still works as a consultant for the Department of Defense. A former US Navy Captain, Pieczenik achieved two prestigious Harry C. Solomon Awards at the Harvard Medical School as he simultaneously completed a PhD at MIT.” 

Are these claims nothing more than the “product” of conspiracy theorists - as some allege?  What are we to believe? All we know for certain is that bin Laden was not captured and tried. And if Bissonnette is to be believed, bin Laden was unarmed and “dispatched” while lying on his back - notwithstanding the order to capture him. Was the man killed that night the “real” bin Laden or a double – put in place because bin Laden had died? Was the “real” bin Laden silenced that night because there were those who knew if he was captured there was the potential that he could reveal information validating assertions that bin Laden had connections to and was still working with individuals in the intelligence community? Was there a secret “counter” order to assassinate bin Laden?  Did Bissonnette give us a clue? Letting us know  that bin Laden was unarmed and executed while lying wounded on the floor which is contrary to the administrations original assertions that bin Laden was killed while resisting capture.  

What do you think?

26 comments :

  1. He was used as the bogey man by the neo-cons. Bush may not have known at the time that his neo-con buddies were in on 9/11 but he was in on the plan to loot the treasury. He looks like a whipped puppy now because he was used to take away the rights of americans. OBL was never going to be captured because he could have outed all of them.

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  2. truth is ben laden died in European usa army hospital 7 or 8 years ago.


    that rade was all staged....

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  3. That "rade" was all staged, huh?
    How about you learn to spell sweetheart...then we might take your bullshit seriously.

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  4. "truth is ben laden died in European usa army hospital 7 or 8 years ago" Now where did this BS story come from? Can you back up that statement with some facts? Where did you get the information that the "rade" was staged? Can that statement be substantiated

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    1. Conflicting reports:
      http://news.intelwire.com/2010/07/wikileaks-document-says-bin-laden-died.html

      All reports were he was on dialysis and sick.

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  5. Bunch of fucking morons, I wasted 3 minutes of my life reading this liberal bullshit. Fuck off faggots.
    "God, country and fast boats forever"

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    1. 3 minutes to read this? That says it all Corky.

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    2. ANY time used to find out SOME kind of information, other than that concocted in your republican conservative bubble is time well spent, ass monkey!!!!! Ad you claim God yet support a man that is a liar and the father of lies. LOL!! Youre a joke pokey.

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  6. A conspiracy that big would require the participation of lots of people. Yet none of them has given away the secret -- not even for the millions of dollars it would bring. And none of the national media -- not even the NY Times, (who hated GWB), the national TV networks, or independent and government investigators and commissions can turn up any evidence contrary to the official explanation. I've heard the theories, but so far, no evidence. I wish the "9/11 truthers" would come up with ONE shred of real evidence -- I'd be happy to jump on their bandwagon. But instead, you get conjecture, surmise, unsupported statements and allegations that we're supposed to accept without questioning, yet they don't want to accept the word of dozens of credible investigators and all the responsible media.

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    1. there are plenty of facts out there you just need to read

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  7. "Unconfirmed sources?" "There are those that say?" "There are claims?"

    Learn how to research facts and not unsubstantiated rumors.

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    1. Obviously your reading comprehension skills are lacking. My understanding of the article is that there are still questions about all the stories that are floating around. I am not convinced that we have all the facts.

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  8. Just ask them and government will tell you about itself---Namely that Government is too inept to do a "conspiracy of the many." ITS TRUE! Ahhh...but they NEVER mention the "conspiracy of the few" do they????.....which they do all the time and do quite well. All it takes is certain key players with power and certain others far beneath who maintian a small need to know. Want proof? Ask anybody in the "secrecy business" and they will tell you all about what is known as "a small need to know." In other words keep the quantity of those who need to know a secret, small. Understanding this KEY concept would tell you all you need to know...no pun intended. [figured out 911 yet? Key power players look the other way and ignore...small group executors.] You can bet Bin Laden was at one time during the Russian occupation of Afganistan either a resource or a user of info supplied by the US govt. Actually he liked us at one time...before he discovered what he said he would later reveal to the American public...namely that the govt. of the US was NOT whom they seem and are fully capable and willing to remove the last shred of anyone;s freedom...including those American.

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  9. this younger generation is so easily influenced by bullshit...what ignorance...all they know how to do is repeat what they here,,,how do you go thru life making decisions like that?...conspiracies are....conspiracies. We shot the MF. Too bad it took so long and the Pakistanis lied about knowing his whereabouts....then Obama gives them even more of our paychecks...whose side is this MF on?

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  10. The truth is bin laden was killed in toro boro years ago, before obama. The military bombed that mountain for weeks, no way anybody survived especially when your kidneys are wasted, bin laden was on kidney dialysis. Just another lie from the obama nazis.

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    1. Yea! With help from G. Bush'it and all of his OIL OWNERS.

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  11. To all you ostriches with your heads up your ass:
    http://xenophilius.wordpress.com/2008/09/20/ten-proven-us-government-conspiracies-and-why-i-still-trust-the-government/

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  12. Yeah....well if all of the belivers think bin Laden died years ago...you probably still think we went to the moon,and Lee Harvey Oswall shot president Kennedy by himself...get a life

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  13. I look at it like this! No matter what comments anyone puts out there our Government is the most currupt Government in the whole world.

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  14. C'mon people, We all know that George Bush'it had this done. It's all about "MONEY" and "OIL". G. Bush'it is a WAR CRIMINAL and an ELECTION CRIMINAL TOO! He likes high prices on GAS cause he's making BIG MONEY now since he started his little war to drive UP the cost of gas in AMERICA and to make himself look good. Why do you think this happened? Cause Dick Cheney has stock in HALIBURTON!

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  15. electronic cockpits hacked and controls locked out from the change of the radio. all the programming could have come in one burst and directly linked the radio to the flight control master computer and with auto-pilot engauged the skill level to fly into a one acre square at a perfect down angle over 300 knots isn't required to pass flight school or our question list asked by the 9/11 commision report. their own disclaimer in the preface should have been a big enough slap in the face of most smart americans that care.

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  16. They sure were. Right after 911, Bin Laden said he had nothing to do
    with it. Then thy brought out the fake Bin Laden that said he did. 110 steel structures don't go away in 10 seconds because of a pancake collapse.

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  17. HOW ABOUT LETS TALK ABOUT BUSH AND THE LIES THAT WERE TOLD TO GO TO WAR. EVERYONE I KNOW STILL SAYS '"what really happened". BUSH WILL GO DOWN IN HISTORY HAS A FAILURE.

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  18. I am ready for the end of world.

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